some may remember the time when the private study edition of the wt wasn't to be made available to outsiders, and the df'd.. now, with the recent boe letter, sept 1, 2014, it specifically states that jw.org is making the km available even for df'd individuals.. do you sense a new trend developing?.
No....I think DF'd people are all pretty much treated crapily in equal measures for the most part..
I do think that there are differences in how people end up D.F.'d, depending upon who they know and what congregation they wind up in.
the watchtower has been making cunning and calculated changes in the organization to gain more money, power and control.
jwn has a multitude of posts on the rapid metamorphosis of the watchtower into jw.org.
please feel free to comment and interject your thoughts.
I'm sure every one of the items listed has a perfectly logical JW explaination as to why they came about. Most of them make complete sense from a business standpoint if you don't suspect an ulterior motive. (and I'm pretty sure there is one)
i just turned in my resignation letter to my congregation a few weeks ago.
last week, 2 elders called me to say they received my letter and would like to meet with me to discuss my concerns.
in my letter, i said i had found out about all the child abuse cases that were going on and that i didnt agree with their policy of disfellowshipping.
Since the "oh so important" bookstudy was deleted some time ago, they're probably reinstating "goody night" once a month, right after the service meeting is concluded....Wouldn't want to miss out on that !
Seriously though, some have speculated that they'll soon do away with DF'ing and shunning. Since you brought this topic up in your conversation with them, maybe that's what they're talking about. Can't you imagine how furious some JW's would be if they no longer had any excuse to shun people they've been shunnin for years? Talk about having to eat Crow !
I doubt it though, it's more likely the "goody night" thing.
so is it a must and an absolute requirement to be a ministerial servant in the org?.
i was told that if i refuse an appointment as an ms then it means i'm opposing "jehovah's call to service".
I was approached several times and was told that my name came up in the Elders meeting as a recommendaton to be a M.S. but I needed to increase my hours in field service first. I had two young children, a full time job, spent 10 hours a week commuting back and forth, 5 hours a week sitting in meetings, 3 hours a week getting dressed for and traveling to meetings, 2 hours a week studying with the family and preparing for the book study and watchtower study 4 hours a month going in service on the weekends not to mention all the time at volunteering and sitting through assemblies each year. Finally I told them that I'm the same person with the same abilities whether I spend 10 hours in service or 4 and it was pretty discouraging to think that I wasn't doing enough to even qualify for an unpaid volunteer position that I didn't even volunteer for.
That was the beginning of the end for me. I quit striving so hard to make it to meetings. If I was tired, I stayed home. If I had things to do around the house on the weekends, I did them rather than go in service. When they got rid of the Book Study after saying for decades how important it was, I realized that so much of the activities JW's do is completly man made busy work and I let them know why when they expressed concern about not seeing me around as much and saw that my wife and kids were attending the meetings without me. Pretty soon that ended as well.
it is both interesting and sad to note that the last passenger pigeon died on september 1, 1914.. the species went from being one of the most abundant birds in the world during the 19th century to extinction early in the 20th century.
.... on september 1, 1914, martha, the last known passenger pigeon, died in the cincinnati zoo.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/passenger_pigeon.
even if we are able to clone dozens or even hundreds, it is unlikely that we will be able to bring them back.. some have suggested cloning the passenger pigeon in the future.
So, I wonder how ol' Noah was able to prevent the extinction of the Passenger Pigeon when he only had a pair (or possibly seven) of them.
Supposedly Noah had certain "kinds" of animals from who were able to produce all the other varieties of their own "kind".
ie: From two dogs, came all the varieties of dogs we have now (supposedly).
The whole Noah event was "magical" in the first place and along with your question, raises dozens of other even more scientifically based questions that lead one to conclude that it was only a story.
i went to the rc last weekend (for my hubby).
it was at a new venue.
a large arena usually putting on music concerts.
HTBWC: I prefer live people to electronic means
Oublitte: That's a pretty ironic statement considering you posted it on an electronic internet forum.
Oubliette... Although HTBWC is participating in an "electronic" conversation so to speak, the conversation is none the less with real people. Perhaps he or she preferred to pose the question to us personally to see what we might have to say, rather than simply entering the question "electronically" into an "electronic" search engine...anyone can do that. Seems like a perfectly reasonable thing for HTBWC to do...not ironic at all. No harm done...no crime committed. I'm glad he/she thought to ask....now we all know.
i went to the rc last weekend (for my hubby).
it was at a new venue.
a large arena usually putting on music concerts.
coming back after lunch, the area was still empty. Not a single gujurati was sat in there. Room for about 100 people... empty.... because they didn't want white brothers mixing with asian brothers? Hubby told me not to get upset about it, but it just seemed so ridiculous to me!
It doesn't matter if it seems ridiculous.....just listen, obey and be blessed. During the Trubulation apparently you'll be told to do all sorts of things that don't make sense, so this experience was good practice.
I wonder what those brothers would have done if you'd have pretended to be deaf or that you only spoke a foriegn language. I suppose they'd have acted as if the whole assembly would come to a screeching halt if they let you continue to sit there. It's strange how some people take such a small amount of authority and let it go to their heads.
hi, i am also a practicing jehovah's witness and very proud of it,to say the very-very least..!
i am a middle-aged man with many decades of being a witness of jehovah god in england.. this important letter is personally to you, just as many of the bible's 88 letters are to be taken personal by you the reader.
i am writing to you to urge you to take stock of your life, think what your future holds for you.
Wow....seven pages of posts. I quit reading after he compared the importance of his own rant here on this "apostate" forum, to the 66 88 letters of the Bible...this has got to be a joke.
This important letter is personally to YOU, just as many of the Bible's 88 letters are to be taken personal by YOU the reader.
.from jw instagram .
http://instagram.com/jw_witnesses.
caption:" a few sisters were out in the tract campaign in clearwater, florida this morning and placed a tract with wrestling personality hulk hogan.
Both ladies have their hands on their boosoms as if they are having heart palpatations or difficulty catching thier breath.
JW's are so doubtful about the authenticity of their religion that they become almost giddy when someone noteworthy (for whatever reason) pays the slightest bit of attention to them.
If it were up to JW"s Hulk Hogan wouldn't exist.....he'd have shaved off his trademark moustache, handed over his Gonads and been pussified into a bland do as you're told door knocker a long time ago.
http://www.jw-archive.org/post/96026163083/would-taking-the-ice-bucket-challenge-raising-monee.
If it's OK for Homer then who am I to question.....
